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    Dave Smith
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    Tip on why I reject orders

    i don't know if anybody else has mentioned this but in the long term it is very beneficial to reject any orders which reward you with less than 300 coins.

    I noticed quite early on that those lower reward orders give you a terrible return for your products. For example a dozen items required (6 of 2 different products) for 263 coins yet you may have an order for just 6 items for (all different) for 1779 coins.

    Yes you have to wait 30 minutes for regenerated orders but it saves so many of your hard earned products if you stick to cancelling every sub 300 coin order.

    I look forward to others views on this
    Last edited by Graylady; 04-12-2015 at 03:30 PM. Reason: Clearer title

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    Hi Dave.

    Graylady has commented extensively on this very subject over the past year and will surely agree with your observations. I do as well, but I have noticed in my game, if I carefully choose to accept one of the lower valued orders (making sure not too great a number of items or too difficult to replace) I immediately get a really good offer (XP and coins) - which temporarily breaks the log-jam of lousy orders.

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    Alizar77
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    It depends. It can happen you get orders that pay less coins and xp but I always try to calculate the medium price/xp per item and if the order asks for hard to get/long time to produce items and I try to put it in relation in my head. And sometimes the medium return is better with some smaller orders when they ask for less items at the same time . I certainly reject orders that ask for like 6 island fruits or 6 items of anything as it causes imbalances in my barn, I always try to keep a few of every item in my barn, though it seems that there is always one or two items that seem to lack constantly. I also reject orders that ask for >30 crops because my fields are constantly planted with all different crops and it is hard to free so many fields to fulfill such orders in a reasonable time. I dont do that often, only if the train asks for it or if I have the chance to fully fill the plane if I try to get these high amounts of crops. I also reject any order that asks for ingots. The money and xp does never pay for the longterm benefit if you keep the ingots to improve your factories. But I dont categorically reject these "small orders" as it depends on what is asked for and if you do the math some "big orders" can turn out to pay out "small".
    Last edited by Alizar77; 03-18-2015 at 02:51 AM.

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    Hi Dave

    Deleting orders has been mentioned many times in different threads. Like I say : "The delete button is your best friend".

    I delete almost every order asking for multiples.
    I delete orders asking for stock needed for my plane.
    I delete orders that don't pay enough, either coins or XP. The numbers change with time as we get higher number as we progress.

    Right now, as I don't need coins or XP specially, I add up the 2 numbers and choose to fill orders that give a total of: 400+ for 1 item, 600+ for 2 items, 800+ for 3, 1,000+ for 4, 1,200+ for 5 and 1,400 for 6.

    I may make an exception if I need to reduce my stock in my barn.

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    SuzyD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graylady View Post
    I delete almost every order asking for multiples.

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    I may make an exception if I need to reduce my stock in my barn.
    I'm pretty new to deleting orders, as I used to fill them all, even if they sat there for a very long time before I could fill them. Now that deleting is an option, I'm considering the orders more carefully, and may have come upon an interesting way to "game" the multiple orders.

    Anyone who uses the market a good deal knows that the market is proactively helpful in filling outstanding trains, planes, and orders. The other day I noticed that seven of my nine orders were multiples, ranging from x5 to x13. One of these is an order for the purple rubber thingies x9. In the past I've scoffed "as if!" as I quickly deleted such a silly request, but for whatever reason I failed to do this. The next market had 7 rubber things, the one after had 5 or 6. I am now constantly trying to figure out new ways to use my glut of these things (I've got flip-flops galore in the factory), but won't fill the order, because the market will likely stop giving them out quite so freely. I'm experiencing the same with the ice cream cones (x6), and a few other items I've left hanging out in the order section.

    There are a couple of drawbacks, most obviously these orders take up space where a more lucrative offer might have been made, and also, for those who depend on having 20+ silk cocoons or rubber pots in the market, if you've got an order for x6 hanging around, after a while the market stops being subtle and gives you x6 of that item, so you may want to fill or delete such orders, so as not to limit your market stock.

    Now I'm just waiting for my perfect multiple order: let's say butter, corn chips, yogurt, frozen yogurt, plastic chips, and those little white pots of sugar stuff you need for everything ... x8. Now there's an order I'd never fill, and just happily collect all my necessaries from the market.

    Try it out, see if it works for you. (Just want to add that I've got just under 40 market boxes, so people with only a dozen or so may not experience the same level of "helpfulness.")

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    SuzyD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzyD View Post
    Anyone who uses the market a good deal knows that the market is proactively helpful in filling outstanding trains, planes, and orders. The other day I noticed that seven of my nine orders were multiples, ranging from x5 to x13. One of these is an order for the purple rubber thingies x9. In the past I've scoffed "as if!" as I quickly deleted such a silly request, but for whatever reason I failed to do this. The next market had 7 rubber things, the one after had 5 or 6. I am now constantly trying to figure out new ways to use my glut of these things (I've got flip-flops galore in the factory), but won't fill the order, because the market will likely stop giving them out quite so freely. I'm experiencing the same with the ice cream cones (x6), and a few other items I've left hanging out in the order section.
    Well, it was a great ride while it lasted, all the purple rubber thingies I could handle for 5 months, but I accidentally filled it yesterday, and haven't seen more than 2 in the market since, after having become accustomed to anywhere from 8 to 13. Drat and damn my seeming lack of hand-eye coordination.

    Well, the order was quickly replaced with a request for caramel in white pots x5, so it's not all bad, I suppose, as I'm keeping that one around for now -- hate making those things, too much sugar and syrup to make.

    Has anyone tried doing this as well? It has proven to be quite reliable for me over these months.

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    Mitchell
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzyD View Post
    Well, it was a great ride while it lasted, all the purple rubber thingies I could handle for 5 months, but I accidentally filled it yesterday, and haven't seen more than 2 in the market since, after having become accustomed to anywhere from 8 to 13. Drat and damn my seeming lack of hand-eye coordination.

    Well, the order was quickly replaced with a request for caramel in white pots x5, so it's not all bad, I suppose, as I'm keeping that one around for now -- hate making those things, too much sugar and syrup to make.

    Has anyone tried doing this as well? It has proven to be quite reliable for me over these months.
    SuzyD, I haven't yet wrapped my head around your calculations. (Oh, now I get it!) However, I realized that I was getting lots of rubber pots in the market, so I simply stopped planting those trees. The quantity I receive from the market every day keeps my factory humming.

    I grab silk when I can get it. I no longer plant silk worm trees, either! If the market sells the worms or the bolts, I'm happy. Otherwise, I just make shirts and sweaters all day.
    Last edited by Mitchell; 11-18-2015 at 11:13 AM. Reason: Doh! Now I get SuzyD's strategy

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    SuzyD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell View Post
    SuzyD, I haven't yet wrapped my head around your calculations. (Oh, now I get it!) However, I realized that I was getting lots of rubber pots in the market, so I simply stopped planting those trees. The quantity I receive from the market every day keeps my factory humming.

    I grab silk when I can get it. I no longer plant silk worm trees, either! If the market sells the worms or the bolts, I'm happy. Otherwise, I just make shirts and sweaters all day.
    Hi Mitch, I'm sorry I wasn't more clear -- it's weird how stuff sometimes looks ok to us, but when we look again from an "outside" perspective, it made no sense at all.

    After accidentally filling another helicopter order (I've now figured out this happens when the game automatically pops in a "ready to be filled" order while you're doing something else, so you tap to send it, rather than whatever you meant to do -- not helpful), I then received an order for 8x tortilla chips, which I'm not filling. Now, my market is offering many, many tortilla chips nearly every time it refreshes, so I have a nearly bottomless supply. I don't like making them, so this is very nice (though the rubber things were way nicer, as having lots of those freed up the rubber factory).

    I have similar orders for multiple butters and cheeses and other items we need all the time, and the market is doing a reasonably good job of providing the items most of the time. So, I'm in agreement with whoever recommended not filling orders requesting multiple items, but rather than zapping them, I let them sit around and conjure the needed items.

    This likely isn't a strategy for many, because it does limit the number of new orders coming in, but it works nicely for me, as I usually don't do that many helicopter orders, focusing mostly on helping friends and the plane. Some people have filled tens of thousands of orders, and this would likely just get in their way.

    Oh, and congrats on still having a usable antique Kindle Fire -- you must have the magic touch!

    I received a first gen one the Christmas they came out, but the charging port went wonky within months, as it did for many, many people, and as happens on very many devices. I've been able to switch out the charging ports on a few other devices, but the Kindle Fire has it soldered in, so that's not an option for anyone but expert solderers, which I am most definitely NOT.

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    Bobby1172
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzyD View Post
    Well, it was a great ride while it lasted, all the purple rubber thingies I could handle for 5 months, but I accidentally filled it yesterday, and haven't seen more than 2 in the market since, after having become accustomed to anywhere from 8 to 13. Drat and damn my seeming lack of hand-eye coordination.

    Well, the order was quickly replaced with a request for caramel in white pots x5, so it's not all bad, I suppose, as I'm keeping that one around for now -- hate making those things, too much sugar and syrup to make.

    Has anyone tried doing this as well? It has proven to be quite reliable for me over these months.
    SuzyD, I'm sure it's a silly question, but what are the purple rubber thingies? I'm at level 77, but I don't seem to have anything purple, other than lamps (more pinkish) and items made from grapes.

    In keeping with the thread, when I started to play this game, I spent a lot of time reading comment by Graylady and Ralph. They give great advice. So, I too delete all order worth under 500 coins, multiples of the same item and ingots.

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    Itswtvr
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    Bobby, the rubber in your rubber factory. It looks like a rolled up yoga mat

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