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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Donaldson View Post
    There are several players on the team that beat us that have played with goc and are in close communication with us. We knew what their delay was before we even entered race, and they have confirmed it after race was over. We also entered the face already 6000 points behind.
    My coop is put into races that are already well underway quite often recently. I had wondered whether our late arrival might compromise the game's ability to rank us properly in the event of a tied score. Hmmmm, guess I'm still wondering.

  2. #12
    If the winner is the first to complete all their tasks regardless of when they start, it puts us at a hugh disadvantage since the race starts for us at 3am verses 11am in Moscow. I know I am still disappointed following our “loss” when we all worked so hard and thought we had won based on our understanding of what was right and fair, but as of right now I am seriously considering ending my time with Township.

  3. #13
    Have you attempted to get in touch with Anna Petrova to try for an official clarification on this point, Dan? Sorry that happened to you all, that's a bitter pill.

  4. #14
    I posted this a while ago on Facebook, so I will copy it here too.

    In Russian version of the game the answer to question "How do I win regattas?" is clear. It says "If coops finish the race with the same score, the coop that finished all tasks BEFORE others will place higher. Total task time starts from the moment regatta starts".

    This is the link to the previous topic on tie in regatta https://forum.playrix.com/showthread...he-Dreaded-TIE! There is a lovely diagram there that says, indeed, there were two conflicting explanations from Playrix, however, according to the CURRENT rules, the Coop B, that finished regatta on day 2, will be in first place, despite spending more time to complete their tasks.
    On page 2 of this thread there are screenshots of conversation with Playrix support from one of the players where it says “In the case of the tie score the winner is the team that finished all the tasks FIRST. In the situation that regatta starts at the same time for everyone it is right to say that you have to finish all tasks as fast as possible to gain the first place.
    Please, note that the position can be changed if the connection to the server got delayed. After the synchronisation it could have happened that another team got a better result, but it was not recorded by your system timely".

    This whole debate about tie score brings into light disagreement and misunderstanding in regards to how exactly the total task time is calculated. Some players think that it is the time you spent on actually doing tasks, while others believe it is the time from the moment you pick your first task till the end of last task.

    Not trusting my English and not taking for granted other players' explanations, I decided to take it to Playrix support in language both me and them know best, in Russian. First, I asked them, how exactly the total task time is calculated. And the answer was "it is the time from regatta start until the end of last task, INCLUDING intervals between doing tasks".
    Then I gave them an example. Coop A started regatta on time, at 11am (Moscow time) on Tuesday, and finished on Wednesday at 2pm. Coop B delayed the start by six hours, started at 5pm on Tuesday and finished on Wednesday at 3pm. Who will win: coop A, that finished regatta earlier but spent 27 hours in a race, or coop B, that finished later but was racing for 22 hours.
    And here I got the most interesting and unexpected reply: The total task time starts from the moment regatta starts (Tuesday 11am Moscow time), and NOT from the moment a coop takes its first task. So in your example coop A will win.

    So if this is correct, then it doesn't matter, when you start regatta, whether you delay it or not, the total task time for every single coop starts at the very same moment - Tuesday 8am UTC. Which means you have to finish first to be victorious.

    I also messaged Anna Petrova gave her the link from above and asked her to comment on it and clarify the question. Her reply was "The rules are written correctly - the winner is the coop that finished the race before others. I'm sorry that even after we changed the wording, there is still disagreement. I will get back to you later after I closely read the topic and consult with developers". Hopefully she will follow through with that here and once and for all clarify the dreaded tie question.

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    Okay guys, I've just had clarification from Anna, using this example:

    Start Co-op: Take their first task the moment the regatta starts: Tuesday 8am UTC. They finish their last task at 2pm UTC. Total race time: 6 hours.

    Wait Co-op: Take their first task on Tuesday 1pm UTC. They finish their last task at 3pm. Total race time: 2 hours.

    Both co-ops achieve perfect score. Who wins? The answer is Start Co-op. They finished at 2pm, whereas Wait Co-op didn't finish until 3pm.



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    Ohhhh Wow!!! Thanks Nevada

    They did changed the rules. Probably as a counter part to the strategy of the delayed start. BUT that gives a HUGE advantage to all the european teams. No more fair departure time!

    Like Dan, I think I will leave the regatta for good as we have no chance of even finishing on the podium anymore.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada View Post
    Okay guys, I've just had clarification from Anna, using this example:

    Start Co-op: Take their first task the moment the regatta starts: Tuesday 8am UTC. They finish their last task at 2pm UTC. Total race time: 6 hours.

    Wait Co-op: Take their first task on Tuesday 1pm UTC. They finish their last task at 3pm. Total race time: 2 hours.

    Both co-ops achieve perfect score. Who wins? The answer is Start Co-op. They finished at 2pm, whereas Wait Co-op didn't finish until 3pm.
    Which now makes sense, as up until very recently a delayed start worked very well for us. This week we didn't wait and we are doing much better again.

  8. #18
    This is all getting silly. If you're a GLB team you are now guaranteed to race against a field full of strong teams every race. If you delay because you don't want to start in the middle of the night you will be up against teams that have many hours head start on you - how is this fair? In an attempt to make as much money as possible out of the highest paying players Playrix is risking alienating the people that keep them in business. I spend a modest amount of real money on the game but if they don't sort this out I will stop and I'm sure I'm not the only person.

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    So to be sure of a level playing field, i would have to set my alarm to 1:00 am and start racing in the dark? That’s not happening lol...
    No more than a week, maybe two, ago i was bumped down by a coop with the same score which made sense if it was individual elapsed racing time that mattered but not if it was who got there first...
    I was waiting to try Sunday racing that Cobalt mentioned in the Township Times this week but now i’m feeling a little worried

    ETA: even though i am nowhere near a GLB team, i still want a fair race...
    Last edited by Magnolia Township; 07-18-2018 at 02:55 PM.

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    Crumbs. That's a bit of a blow, isn't it? First past the post. That's dreadful news.

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